Three false starts,. Big chunks of text highlighted and deleted like so many wads tossed at a wire wastebasket. That’s how it has been trying to write down my opinions here on why garden clubs and plant societies are struggling. Apparently, I seem to be a tad bit resentful of having missed their heyday. Perhaps, I’m also angry at having to watch their ongoing, sad demise while, seemingly, no one bothers to try saving them. Someone, anyone, please try something! Anything. There has to be a way to move them forward, or, at least, past the Victorian era.
It started when I was inspired to respond to Elizabeth Licata’s recent GardenRant post on the subject and some interesting follow-up comments, but given that my previous attempts quickly plunged into darkness, I have decided to simply tell you a story of about a horticultural group that has a happy ending. Actually, no ending at all. Looming or otherwise. This group, which lives in Cincinnati, my home town, is so popular and has gotten so large that it has been forced underground. That’s right. I’m not lying. We had to go dark. Radio silent. Everything I’ve said and will say is true.

A gaggle of horticulturists geeking out!
For the purposes of this blog, we will call this secret society the Beatles, and it all started like this. Twelve years ago, someone we’ll call John Lennon invited a handful of fellow horticulture professionals to my house and we walked around my garden, talked shop, ate pizza, drank a few beers, and discovered we had fun. So much fun, in fact, that we did it again the following month. And then the month after that.

Getting a little weird on a road trip to Louisville.
Every month, another garden, where we would walk around, talk, eat, drink, and laugh. We all enjoyed it so much that we began inviting our other plant geek friends, including both professionals and amateurs. Then one day, we took a group photo of ourselves and were shocked to see how big we had gotten. So we decided to slow down on inviting new members. Unfortunately, by that time word had gotten around. Many were outside wanting in. The Beatles had to “break up.”

The Beatles at their ten-year anniversary party.

John Lennon at the ten-year anniversary party about to read an epic poem he wrote to the other Beatles, a poem which told tales of their splendid journey to that time, which they enjoyed immensely.
Over the years, the group has visited all the public gardens in the city and a bunch of private ones. We have gone to cemeteries, nature preserves, and a botanical library. We have ventured out on some regional road trips and enjoyed seeing many other fabulous places of horticultural interest, including a well-known race track and several horse farms. During the winter months, we usually visit a conservatory or greenhouse, let loose with a Christmas party, and do a Show & Yell. Show & Yell is where a handful of the more courageous Beatles choose to share slides of favorite gardens or plants they’ve discovered on their own to an increasingly drunken and unruly mob. It gets brutal fast and very funny!

The Beatles walking in a forest.
Only because I, John Lennon, started the group and no one has yet bothered to dethrone me, I remain the “Dear Leader,” but this has not been especially burdensome. I just ask around and find places for us to visit, make some calls, and then we go there. Honestly, it gives me that much more opportunity to network around and, as our reputation has grown, people seem almost honored when asked to host the Beatles. If the destination allows it, we bring our own beer and order pizza. Whoever has annoyed me most recently is assigned to take up a collection to pay for the food. If the site would rather we eat and drink elsewhere, that’s what we do. The Beatles enjoy the garden and then head off to the pub.

A contingent of Beatles in their natural environment. Official motto: A drinking club with a horticultural problem.
There will always be horticulture, friendly faces, and fun at a Beatles’ event, which is why people continue to come and long to bring their other friends. We have a great mix of professionals and amateurs, women and men, young and old, learned and learning. What we don’t have is a bank account, a treasurer, old business, new business and some crankcase wasting everybody’s time demanding to know why the group spent X amount on stamps. And, besides, if anyone ever dared to try a stunt like that, good old John Lennon would throw them out.
I’m not suggesting that every group adopt such a unstructured template. I think you can have a really great club or society that requires at least some rules of order, but if you’re going to pry young and/or young at heart people out of their busy lives to spend time at a meeting, you had better also give them a bona fide “night out.” And what constitutes that? A good start would be a chance to visit a beautiful place, to see amazing stuff, eat some unhealthy food, drink some beer, and to enjoy good times with great friends. Sounds like my kind of night out. John Lennon just told me he thinks so too.

Enjoying ourselves after visiting a very interesting little nursery outside of Oregonia, Ohio.
I love the no-dues, no-officers, no-robert’s rules vibe and would hope to duplicate it. So are your outings on a schedule? Coz scheduling events around people’s schedules each time would be a bear!
I try to schedule events as far out as possible so people can get them on their calendars. We usually meet on a Thursday evenings after work. Because dinner is usually part of the program, we can schedule as close to after work as possible. During shorter daylength times of year, we tend to start earlier, sometimes as early as 4:30PM. During the summer, sometimes we start later. But I don’t really schedule around anyone’s existing schedule, so some people cannot make some meetings. Because there are so many of us, we almost always have a great turnout.
Bravo!
I love the concept of Show and Yell! If more groups followed your lead – dispensing with minutes, agendas, blah blah – I think they could truly thrive!
We don’t do boring! Rude and offensive, yes. But not boring. I think the orders of business for groups that need them should be moved to Zoom or email for the people who must or who might be interested. Time together is way too valuable to waste with all that.
Yes!
We did do somethings and they were great = https://thinkingardens.co.uk/?s=supper. Just took too much organising, given people were not local so much as international. Would love someone in the UK to take this up again!
For once I wished I lived on the southwest side oh Ohio instead of east central and 4 hours away. Sounds great. Beer is the carrot I have to dangle to get the husband to go plant places with me. Will someone offer tours of gardens and micro breweries?
Love it. We do have an official professional group here that does meet for drinks and fun–I’d be looking for something on a lower tier. There might be some people in the official group who want something less structured.
Kudos for being the driver of getting folks together. Social groups and “do-ggoder” groups can co-exist . . . but separately, methinks. Regardless, coming togather to enjoy gardens and each other is a wonderful thing. I’m jealous!J
Wow, your group sounds absolutely wonderful. Wish you were here. Wanna’ move south?
I am the minutes recorder for my group. I volunteered for the job so I have absolutely no reason to complain, BUT I’d sure like to be part of an easygoing (no back-biting) group who simply exists to love plants.
The reason our garden club languishes is because it meets at 1 pm (day jobs, anyone?) and it’s programs are stuck in the 50s (luncheon? Hat parade???) our Friends of the Oak ParkConservatory, however, does once a month in summer Friday nights “Uncorked”; nibbles, adult beverages, sometimes even music. Sells out.
I briefly joined the local fuchsia club who started meetings with the Pledge of Allegiance at a time when I was not feeling patriotic. After the minutes, the treasurer, etc., the agenda became who would take responsibility for food at the next meeting in the dreary meeting room. That’s how not to run a garden club.
Ditch the formalities, keep it fun, remember the common thread is gardening. Bravo Scott.
I can see why this is a popular group! If I was in your area, it’s certainly one I’d want to join. But since I’m not, maybe I can find a group of like-minded individuals. Or just seek out a cross-section of beer-friends and plant-friends and wing it.
Punxsatawney Zone 4 Bone cold and wet soil dialing in…. will bring beer !
Eat, drink, talk, visit plants – sounds wonderful to me. And I’m thoroughly tired of ‘politically correct’ – give me some nice, normal ‘rude and offensive’ with no hard feelings. (‘Mean and nasty’ just doesn’t fit with fascinating plants either.) Formal rules don’t seem to fit with plants groups – and the plants don’t care what we put on the little tags either. Look forward to Scott’s (and others’) Rants – it’s just like talking with him. (I’ll hop off my soapbox now.) =^.^=
This is so refreshing! I’ll be delving further into Scott’s and others’ rants and take some of this to our local garden club. We have come some way towards being primarily a club for fun and some learning (which is fun!) instead of mostly fundraising to do good. Attracting and keeping younger members is a challenge, though we are an Evening Club. Zoom meetings have been a help, in a way. Pizza and beer would probably help more, but we have a wonderful, very low cost meeting place in a church hall…
The other thing that turns me (and perhaps others) off garden clubs and master gardener programs, besides all that prissy meeting agenda stuff, is the REQUIREMENT to participate in local beautification projects. I have way plenty of that to do at my own house, thanks anyway. What l DON’T have plenty of at my house is other people to talk to whose thoughts l am not already thoroughly familiar with. Thoroughly.
So the very idea of visiting gardens, chatting and drinking sounds heavenly. If only l could.
I so wish I could join! Having been quietly let go at two local garden centers (eye rolls to management at both) I doubt you’d let me in. I love the ethos of your group. Perhaps one day! I’m in Cincinnati also.
That sounds absolutely wonderful! Garden nerds, food and alcohol is very underrated. In Virginia you could add cannabis if you have a medical card.
It’s so great that they’ve been married for 36 years. That is so sweet.
I have the pleasure of participating in this often unruly and unruled Rock Band. I’m a Beatle. Always a stimulating visit to so many different sites that one or more of us have a connection with. The only treasurers report is the collection of dinner money. Bring your own preferred beverage. So many different fields of horticultural knowledge. All friends, all community, all fun. Kudos to our John Lennon.
You can form your own local band but you’re not getting our John.
Decades ago a group of plant geeks (hort/design professionals by day) got together to talk about plants and drink beer around Christmas. (Don’t recall if there was food….) We had such a great time we kept it up. Lasted a couple of years. Type A brains in this group grew into the Western Pennsylvania Horticulture Society. Formality for those who love organized thoughts and methodical gardens. The rest of us loosely scattered, but I can say, upon chance encounter with a plant comrade of yore, our eyes light up and conversation ignites! Love your article. I’m inclined to inspire the group I just joined…